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A Little Mystery: "Project Twilight"

Stargate Atlantis executive producer Joseph Mallozzi likes to tease his readers with all kinds of hints and behind-the-scenes tidbits about the episodes and movies being produced at Bridge (jmallozzi_blog). Sometimes, he gives pretty straight forward pieces of information, such as actors cast in certain roles, which writer is writing the script for each episode, and other such concrete "evidence".

But, once in a while, he likes to tease just so that our interest gets heightened — Take "Project Twilight" as an example:

JUNE 13:
Brad and Rob were in today and we discussed Brad’s trip to Monte Carlo, pending developments, and a little something I’m calling Project Twilight.

JUNE 14:
Prospero writes: “Can you tell us anything about what Project Twilight is??”

Answer: Nope. It’s Top Secret.

JUNE 15:
Only my two days into hiatus and I suspect I may have underestimated by reading capacity. I’ll pick up some more titles on Wednesday since I’ll be dropping by the offices anyway to watch the Ghost in the Machine day one mix and the Broken Ties final mix, and begin discussions on Project Twilight.

JUNE 24:
From post, it was back to the office where Brad, Rob, Paul and I gathered to discuss Project Twilight over lunch. We tossed around some notions for a couple of hours and eventually called it a day, vowing to really give it some thought while we were off enjoying our time off.

Well, among the things I have to look forward to: home and plasma repairs, meetings with my accountant and financial advisers, two script reviews, and Project Twilight await.

...and more thought given to Project Twilight. I had some ideas for the latter that I sent Paul, Brad, and Robert’s way. It seems a long way off now but these things have a way of sneaking up on you.

JULY 10:
Oh, and we also talked a little about Project Twilight. Paul had a terrific idea, more of a backstory element that gives it a surprising little twist. He wants to run it by Brad and Robert next week as well.

JULY 13:
After that, I’ll hand things off to multi-talented director Will Waring and it’ll be smoooooooooth sailing…up until I start on Project Twilight.

JULY 15:

Martin is busy working on another show and Brad is equally busy working on a little something I’m calling Project Terzo.

JULY 16:
Amber Hooker writes: “So, what’s the difference between Project Terzo and Project Twilight?”

Answer: The two are completely different projects.

JULY 25:
JimfromJersey writes: “ I just received BREAKING NEWS email from SyFy Portal: “Brad Wright announces that a third Stargate movie is in the works”

So is this aforementioned breaking news Project Terzo or Project Twilight?”

Answer: Zoniduck already pointed out that Terzo is third in Italian. So, to answer your question - yes, Project Terzo refers to the third Stargate movie that Brad has already started work on.


About a month ago, with so much uncertainty about the future of the series, Rob Cooper pitched out the idea of shooting the SGA movie at the end of this season. His thinking was that if the series did end, we would have a movie in hand. If, however, the series was picked up, the “SGA movie” (codenamed Project Twilight) would simply become the opening two episodes of the show’s sixth season. Alas, this notion never got past the consideration stage and, as a result, we won’t be rolling right into it as planned. On the bright side, however, the network has greenlit the movie and we do have a terrific idea in mind. Obviously, I can’t say much about it at this point but suffice it to say that it should include the entire cast in addition to a certain gaunt and pallid flowing-locked guest star. And, if it proves anywhere as successful as the first two SG-1 direct-to-video features, you can be assured that this will be the first in a long, long line of Stargate Atlantis movies.

So, now we know...

Poll #1205732 Project Twilight

What do you think "Project Twilight" is?

The name of SGA's 100th episode (S5 finale).
The name of the next SG-1 movie.
The code name for the planning of SGA's 100th Episode Party.
Stargate Universe's new working title.
How they'll be using SGA or SG-1 movies to spin off Stargate Universe.
A new project not related to Stargate in any way.
Other - please specify in comments :)

From dictionary.com:
1. the soft, diffused light from the sky when the sun is below the horizon, either from daybreak to sunrise or, more commonly, from sunset to nightfall.
2. the period in the morning or, more commonly, in the evening during which this light prevails.
3. a terminal period, esp. after full development, success, etc.: the twilight of his life.
4. a state of uncertainty, vagueness, or gloom.
5. of, pertaining to, or resembling twilight; dim; obscure: in the twilight hours.
6. appearing or flying at twilight; crepuscular.


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Jul. 26th, 2008 01:30 pm (UTC)
I thought maybe it was the code name for the 100th episode party, but now, after looking at all of the definitions of "twilight", I'm leaning toward how they plan to end SGA. Mallozzi has talked about how hard it is for a show to go beyond Season Five these days, and he has tried to console fans with the fact that a DTV movie will be made if there isn't a Season Six.

So, maybe Project Twilight is their contingency plan if SGA is not renewed for Season Six.
Jul. 26th, 2008 03:59 pm (UTC)
My best guess is that it relates to Stargate Universe, perhaps a pilot that ends SGA and starts Universe. I'm taking this from twilight referring to both morning and evening. It also refers to a period of uncertainty and if they move into exploration mode in a distant galaxy, that will certainly be uncertain. It would also represent a culmination of the stargate program, in that it has gone from reactive (defense oriented) to proactive (exploration for the sake of exploration). Of course, I could be way off base if Universe isn't what I think it is!
Jul. 26th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
From what I've read about Universe, it will indeed be about exploration. But, as always, there has to be a kind of conflict and I think it has to do with struggles over energy sources. The premise of Universe was that the Ancients built these Stargate-seeding ships and that the ninth chevron in a Stargate address will form a wormhole to the second ship in the chain. The first ship seeds the Stargates and moves on, while the second ship is meant to follow some several years behind (I think, possibly it was supposed to be 1000 years behind) so that the Ancients could explore the worlds deemed by the first ship (which is automated) to be of interest.

Somehow, the use of the ninth chevron is discovered and Stargate Command sends a team there. It's not clear if they'll have a way back, though. The worlds that they explore through the Stargate are old ones and are hungry for new sources of energy/power and it appears that this second ship that SGC ends up on becomes a target.

These two ships would have to be incredibly powerful in order to still be running after millions of years. They are most possibly much older than the city-ship Atlantis.

If there is to be a bridge between SGA and Universe, then I could see where it would be one of their team, most likely McKay, who discovers the ninth chevron. Also, Michael Shanks has said that he might be in more Atlantis in the future, so it is possible that Daniel might also have a role in the ship's discovery. (Wouldn't it be interesting if they carry over Daniel and Rodney into the new series? David Hewlett made it very clear that he wanted Shanks back every day when they were together for filming the mid-season two-parter.)

But, I think that your observation about the definition of "twilight" that Mallozzi is using here is a very good one.
Jul. 26th, 2008 11:56 pm (UTC)
I have a strong suspicion that Stargate Universe was originally intended to be a project for Michael Shanks to lead in the same way that Richard Dean Anderson lead SG-1, but by the time it got rolling, he was already commited to Rage of Angels. Although his first commitment is there, who knows what may happen in the future? (plain old wishful thinking mixed with trying not to jinx Rage of Angels, which I would also like to see succeed - I'm so confused!)
Jul. 27th, 2008 05:28 pm (UTC)
Someone on that very forum posited that it may refer to a young actor currently appearing in a film called Twilight ...

Check IMDb for info on cast of said film.

Whether that has bearings on 3rd movie, or SG:U; or is a complete red herring / load of old baloney, I dunno.
Jul. 27th, 2008 05:46 pm (UTC)
Really? That would make the working title rather less opaque than usual - seems unlikely that they would adopt the name of an existing production as their own working title...
Jul. 27th, 2008 05:58 pm (UTC)
They have used "CSI: Atlantis" as a working title for SGA's fifth season's 19th episode, "Vegas", which was to hint that the Atlantis episode was to take place in Las Vegas like the CSI show does. There might be other similar aspects to CSI with the "Vegas" episode as well, but we're not certain of that.

I'm sure that MGM is pushing for young "name" actors of sorts for Universe and they probably would want to hire one to appeal to the younger demographic. That "younger, edgier" portion of SG-1's "200" may have been closer to the truth than we realize.
Jul. 27th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
Urp... I feel a little queasy...
One of the best things about stargate has been the lack of hollywood type casting (well, except for Tok'Ra Barbie - which they acknowledge was a poor idea). I'd sure hate to see that change.
Jul. 27th, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
It probably will depend on which network/channel airs Universe and how much darker, edgier they want to go with the show. Stargate's trademark has always been its humor and not taking itself too seriously, so I hope they don't go too "younger, edgier" than what they've already done in SG-1 and SGA. It seems to me, though, that they covet the young male demographic and will probably be led to cast young actors as the leads. It's hard to imagine that someone in their 30's is "too old," though.

Jul. 27th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)
Their previous attempt at the young male demographic, when they focused on the conspiracy arc on Earth, was a spectacular failure. One can only hope that MGM learned something from that. On the other hand, more and more shows rely on explosions, graphic violence, and skimpy clothing. It's become the norm at the expense of believable and well-rounded characters. Sigh. It's hard to say which way things will go. On the other hand, the folks making stargate have always leaned heavily toward solid acting rather than the youngest and most nubile. Fingers crossed!
Jul. 28th, 2008 05:29 pm (UTC)

I believe it may be a certain clone!actor referred to, for film 3, which is allegedly Jack-centric - rather than 'younger edgier' cast in general.
Jul. 28th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC)
Ahhhh... I didn't know the name of the actor, so I didn't get that the first time around. That becomes rather more credible....
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